The Cut Life Podcast
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Ep. 7 - Larry Sims

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We talk to Larry Sims on how his dancing background led to his career in styling some of the biggest celebrities in the game including Queen Latifah, Mary J. Blige and what was his reaction to THE reaction to him shaving the head of Sanaa Lathan. Also Larry will be discussing his upcoming Behind the Brush seminar in Atlanta.

Hi, welcome to the cut life podcast. It's to hear a joy your host and we are back a big met. Our producer in the building is always telling me what to do, even though libras don't like to be told what to do. But anyway, I have someone that is near and dear to my heart on the line. You know, we talked to a lot of celebrity stylus, but he is just his persona. If you ever get to meet him, if you see that smile, you know it when you see it. Mr Larry Sims, how are you? You so sweet. Thank you for having me. Thank you, guys, for having me. I appreciated it. No, thank you for being here. I know that you just got out off of a shoot, so you had a long day, constantly grinding, constantly working. I'm always have to find out what you're what would coast you're on, because I never know. I'm like, okay, are you on eastern time? Are you on Pacific Time? Like, where are you in the world, because you're traveling constantly. Exactly? I'm actually in rainy, usually Sunny California, but we've been having like tumotuous rainstorm, so I'm riding around in Callie and it's raining out. But yeah, I do travel a lot. I'll be in Atlantas about a fact next we week, or a project that me and you were working on together, which I'm excited about. Yes, we can talk about that. The smooth and shine a new product launch in Atlanta and they will be on the panel with some other esteemed guests, as well as the hair fashion show. I'm excited about that. Yeah, I'm so glad that you teamed up with this. I'm excited about the new launch that smooth and Sean has under their belt, the new technologies, the new package and all looks really amazing and I'm really excited to be a part of it. And you have been an ambassador for ...

...the brand for how long we are in our loving you. Believe it or not. That's amazing. Yeah, it's crazy. You don't have those sort of, you know, Fokesperson deals every day and the fact that we actually have been in business for as long as we have really just being volumes for the brand and also, I guess, me as a professional and representing the brand and a sort of appropriate way. I guess not. I guess it's a fact. It's a fact. Let's keep it real. It's a fact, and that is a long time to be associated with a brand and to be representing the brand on such a high level that you do. Can you speak a little bit about how you maintain long Jevy, not only with brands, with your clients, will get into in a moment, but just even as a stylist working with a brand that has corporate people, that they're dealing with the corporate structure and you're in a creative environment, and how you have maintained the longevity of this relationship? Yeah, absolutely, I think it's across the board. One word that I can just think of regarding sponsorship being the folks first and having deals with people, having clients, is consistency. The opted just be for me I've just always worked hard to state consistent, consisting in a lot of things on a lot of levels. Consistent in terms of knowing what's hot and what's relevant and what's current, consistent in my creative consistent in my professionalism, consistent and how I present myself, so people are consistently interested to have me around. So you know, it's worked out for me and I'm really excited and proud of myself for for that you know alone. Well you should be, because you are consistently slaying. I think that you...

...when I'm on your instagram, stocking, because you know we always have to look for the hot picks to post to the cut life and just inspired by you, know, your creativity and the people that you work with. We can run down the list. Gabriel unions and not late then marriage a blige. I saw that hot pony until you did on Alexander Ship I love it. Yes, you just had like a big chap. Was it a year ago or something like that, maybe a year two ago, and so to see her with the long hair again was really cute. Yeah, she had a really big shot because Alexander Shipp, for everybody that doesn't know who she is, she played a Leah and she also played storm. She plays the young storm and all of the xmen movies and a part of the signing up for the character was she needed to shave her head and she has luss of gorgeous, curly natural lot of beautiful hair and she basically just chopped it off for the roll of storm. I think anybody would have chopped it off to be able to have opportunity to play storm. And absolutely right you. Hasn't changed later we have grown it out and yeah, it's been good to be able to play with a little bit of linked on her again. She had the new movie coming out called Love Simon, which is what we were promoting, and she already shot another xman that's in the CAN. That's coming out, I believe, this summer. So yeah, Alex is doing a thing well. It goes to show how hair can also be a part of keeping you working, because I would shore shave mine to if they wanted to make me a superhero, I'm here for it. And we have another big chop that literally broke the Internet. You cut off San Lathan's hair for her movie, Napolie ever after coming to Netflix, and people were obviously not expecting that, because they're like seeing all the different looks that you're teasing here and there, and then one days like big shot, boom, we're like wait a...

...minute, what happened? What happened? And she look absolutely well, looks absolutely stunning, like that face. I mean everything is amazing. So tell us what you can tell us about that process. Did you know before filming started that this was going to be that this was going to happen? Is this something that she decided to do while you were in the process of making the film? Like, what's the little back story on that cut? Yeah, so, for a lot of people that don't know, not really. Ever after. Was a book that has been around for a very long time. The talks of it becoming a movie has been around for a very long time as well. Holly Berry was originally signed up to do it with the movie was never made to no figned up to do it and when they baded me on it, they told me about the history of the story. I knew specifically about the black woman's hair journey and I don't want to get too much of it away and and how it all on phones in terms of what's the knats character violet, what her journey has been with with our hair story, but to not definitely knew that cutting her hair, shaving her head, would be a part of really becoming this character and allowing herself to sort of really dive into and realistically live, sort of emotionally, what this character went through, and I can't wait for the world to see it. You know, we talked about a couple of different options. We talked about doing the ball cat. We talked about actually cheating it so that she actually didn't shave her head and you know, it's just such a powerful I just actually saw a cut of the movie just for my eyes to make sure everything looks really...

...amazing and just so emotional, so strong, so meaningful. It's so impassful. So many women, not jet black women but women in general, are really going to be able to the story is going to resonate with them and you know, she committed to it and she killed it and I think it just took her to another level in terms of her acting and her commitment to the art of acting and I'm just really happy to be a part of its my first film and it's a film all about here and I'm really excited for the world to see what what we what we created and it's a really beautiful piece of art that will be around for forever. Absolutely I didn't realize this was your first film. Why am I thinking this is like film twenty? But that's what happens when you have that type of impact on people. I'm like, no, Larry's done like a hundred films. What are you talking about? Exactly? Usually all like the hours that film you know, the commitment of all of the hours that you have to work for films, especially because a creatively it really doesn't lend itself to unless you're plan unless you're working on super like over the top character sort of or time pieces, you know. But I've been able to work on this filming. It really just opened my eyes in terms of what creatively could be accomplished when doing something that is so specific and it's such a niche in terms of telling the story of a black woman's hair attorney. So I feel really lucky and ire. There are a lot of people that I admire there were up for the job. Come Timboo, was thrown in the pod Ky, you right, was thrown in the pot and the job landed in my lab. So I'm just really, really hot either to be a part of it. Well deserved, Larry Know, the looks awesome and I love seeing the grow out of her shaved head...

...to now a little TWA action going on with her little curls. It looks really cool. I'm sure she's feeling it too, because sometimes you don't know how you're going how a look is going to transform you until you actually do it. And there are so many women that want to cut their hair, maybe not as extreme, but they want to try a bob or they want to try a Pixie cut and they're just scared to do it. But then I remember when I cut my hair, I was like, Oh, I'm stealing this little Rihanna cut and I turned into a whole new person and I was like keeping this look. That says came out real quick. I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, and you're here. Look Great. You always look amazing, like your sexty, your dog, your stylist. That's why people follow you and the cutlight like they do. Thank you so much. I'm like, now that the cut life is here, I can't go outside and not representing. People like your hair always looks done. I'm like yeah, because I don't walk out the house when it's not done. That's why, right, I'm like, let me put all my little leather cap and keep it moving, exactly, exactly. I love it. So since you have done your first film and everyone should know that you work with Gabrielle Union for years on being Mary Jane, what are some of the key differences or any preferences that you have with TV versus film, and is there any difference in your process or is it similar working on both types of medium's? Well, I think about a show like being Mary Jane is that you never know where it's going to end. When you're dealing with a movie, there's the beginning and there's an end and you sort of know the story that you really want to tell. Get. Ebria played the news anchor and being Mary Change, and we could only press the buttons so far as far as what's accepted for black news anchors realistically in our world outside of television and film. So we really only were able to play...

...with certainly specifically, but we were able to like kind of like over the five year season that we had and the the to our special that a lot of people are going to see, you get to see the evolution of Mary Change and how she went from long weaves to, you know, chopping it off to, you know, fobs, you know embracing her natural texture and Carl Patterns. So we really did want to be able to show you what a black woman news anchor sort of like. Went through that tie in. So that was really cool. And then with SNA, you know, it was really just as playing with just so many different looks. We went through anything that you could probably think of that that a woman would want to do with her hair, from blonde to currly, to weeds to sort and natural, and you know, if it was all really cool. And the great thing about both of those projects is that they're both really good friends of mine. Gabrielle is absolutely one of my best friends, and so now we're really close as well. So it really felt like we were basically at work playing. I was at work playing with friends and you know, for that I don't think I could ever do it any other way. I don't think I could ever be on the television side or or doing the film with people I just met. I just, you know, it just was a such a special experience for both of them, both separately, that that, you know, it's hard to top. I think I love that. And you can see, like the how organic the relationships are with you and your clients. I got to look at your IG Story and I mean obviously we've sat down to dinner and we've had a little time in New York and you just want more Larry, like what's your round are? You want Larry all the time. The personality the aura. Your spirit is so magnetic. But you mentioned something about Gabriel Union and it made me think of her more texture looks that...

...you've ushered her into over the past year with red carpet appearances and photo shoots, and you do a lot of magazine covers, you know, we see those covers on your page all of the time, and so tell me a bit about, you know, the freedom, with the creativity that you have with your clients when they're doing something that's not, you know, isolated within a film or television project and it's like, okay, well, you have an event coming up and you can play with the different things. Because when I saw Miss Gabrielle Union rocking those like natural ponytails and different looks with the curl, I fell in love and I had never seen those looks on her. I'm always used to the straighter hair or like the you know, body waves type look, but this was something different and I thought you killed it on her. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, Gabriella not partner it up with her product line that she has now also and launched a year before I became a part of it, but now I list hair a yeah, fault lallat hair gay. I love their edge control. Oh my God, I'm addicted. It's it's real good. I'm telling you, it's amazing products. Again, great technology is great, ingredis beautiful packaging. Something that she really worked hard on for women is that have natural textures. So we really wanted to make sure that we were setting an example in terms of what we wanted the consumer to see as a result of using those products, which is why, you know, on her off time or on her Gabriel Union time, not Mary Jane Time, we really specifically and purposefully wanted to create styles that exemplified, you know, natural hair textures, curlier, Kinky, your hair textures. And it's work and it's been really great in terms of the response that we've been getting and I think that really, like...

...she put would prefer. I mean at this point, you know, we would always do protect the styles before she came out with her product right, and we would do we wigs and weeds because we would always want to preserve her natural hair from exceptive amount of heat. But once the product line swallow this came about, we're like absolutely, it's time to really rock natural styles. And Yeah, that's fairly hair and really show these women what types of look they can really create with you the flowers products and really embracing their natural textures. So that's what we've done. Well, yes, you executed it at the highest level and I was excited when I saw it because I just love people to step outside of their comfort zones and even if you don't love it, I'm like, you have to try something different once in a while and I love changing my hair and now sometimes people have their signature look, but every once in a while you have to step outside of that comfort zone. But it seems that she's definitely embracing it and rocking it, like on vacation and in her downtime. So I love it's done everything from braves, and I mean pieces, natural pieces, our own natural like we've just just really embraced it, you know, and I think another thing that you have to and still sort of liking your clients, is that trust relationship. Like you know my girls, they sit in the chest and not trusted me to really bring this movie to life. In Gabrielle Trust me, you know, in terms of like our covers and our photo shoots and Mary Jane like, and that's where it all begins that trust is everything. So we've talked about brand endorsements, working with celebrity clients and TV and film, but let's talk about Mary j Blige and working as a stylist on tour, because I don't know how many people know that you were actually a dancer before you were hair stylists. Yeah, and then. So tell us a bit about that story, how that initial career turned into the Larry Sims that we know to this...

...day. Yeah, it's crazy. A lot of people that know me as this hairstyles guy don't really know me as Larry the dancer, and it was funny when I was transitioning. People were like, you're about to do what? None of my friends, AH, my beers, not a lot of people didn't really get it or understand why I would leave my dance career sort of at the height of my career, but I did it for ten plush years. I work with so many beautiful, dope people. Missy Elliott was one of the people that hired me the most. She became not only my boss but one of my closest friends and my sister, and you know, she was the one also who gave me my first cover to style here. I would like play with her hair and style her hair when we would be on the road touring. And you know, she put me on a couple of covers and one thing led to another, you know, and I decided to take it on for a time and I was after, like I said, ten plus years of dance and I had a fourth career. I did dancing star the yard and dancing jam girls, countless music videos, all with tours, and that's when I met miss some me I met. That's when I met Mary as well. When I was a dancer, I met Queen La Tifa when I was a dance. I make Ebrielle when I in union, when I was a dancer, dancer for the group Black, and she did bring it on with them. So all I had all of these celebrities that knew me and the business and entertainment as well, that embraced me and knew me as a performer, as a dancer. And when I went off to school, I checked out for years and went the pivopoint international, the Harvard of hair in Chicago. So many great people have graduated from that school and I eventually moved back to La and I had to hustle for a while because I had to start from the ground up, and people that really rock with me, like La Tifa. She was one of the first people to put me on back when I know when people remember when she cut her hair.

I cut her hair and said it's like a symmetrical sort of thing when we were promoting the secret life of bees. She had always been known for rocking long hair. Gabrielle remembered me from dancing with black, you know, and was like, oh, he's doing this now, let me get him the opportunity. You know Mary the same way. She saw me with Queen Lattifa one day and she was like, Larry, you're doing what, let me give you the opportunity. And it's one thing to get the opportunity, but it's another thing to seal the deal on the opposite to any of the and get called back over and over again. And thank God I got called back over and over again. You know, I was assisted also and carrying people's bags and wanted to be around the best in the business. And you know, Hare saw this by the name of Kim Pavis, the great timper. Yes, yes, is an icon in the industry. Brought me on I assisted him for a while. He wasn't available to do Victoria back in one day and sent me and Bam I ended up running around with her and David back on for a couple of years with the spice girls on their union tours during the era of the BOB, and everybody wanted to know who the black boy was behind the Bob. And then just the phone haven't stopped ringing. So I did not even know that. I Love See. This is why I love this podcast, because I get all the real Jewice. People don't know the stories behind they just see the final looks, but here there are some real stories behind it and I love that. It's amazing. I can't believe you're know that here. You know what I knew. Well, I met you once before. You probably even remember this, but through Kalina, okay, you she went. It was in La during the beats he awards, and she told me then that you used to dance and you you were hair stylist and but it was like a very quick kind of meeting, like I was doing pr for her at the time, so I was kind...

...of in my little corner working and y'all were chatting and whatnot. So I kind of knew that. But you know what, I didn't know about you working with black as a dancer, because I have an interesting story. So and and I can't say too much because I get emotional, but when I was twelve, that's when I first met in the Tina and Nyasha, because my my dad used to day their mom. Wow, yeah, wow. So my dad was like recently divorced and then Tamera, you know, was a single mom and they met and we used to roll tight for some years as adolescence and I was there before black even happened, when she was going to rehearsals, you know, and talking to left eye and writing songs in the house and doing her ab crunch routine every morning and night, and we were just wilding out as kids. So it's just crazy the connections that people have. It's a really crazy that is crazy. I was wow, yes, it's crazy, as you just know, now that you know we've Lost Lisa Left, lost the Tina, you know, and God willing me and you are still here and just was that connection. It's just it means so much more than me that you're in my life and you support me and I support you, and the bond that we're building with each other. It's just is that that much more meaningful to me, and I appreciate same here. It makes me feel like they're up there connecting those dots, like we have to get them together. We're going to connect them and you know, their death, their spirits are alive and well. So definitely means a lot. Well, you know, I don't want to put a damper on things, but that was a nice moment. I had to share. As soon as you said Black, I was like my mouth dropped. So I had to share, and this is what the podcast is about, giving you the real information and not to tease too much, but all of this knowledge that you're...

...sharing, there's so much more that comes with it. And you have your living beyond the brush seminars that will be launching soon and different cities and people can actually have a chance to have intimate interaction with you and to really learn some true skills about getting on your level. Basically, it has I mean, how what other way can we say it? And so I definitely want to give you a chance to even talk a little bit about that, but to also just tell people, please, if you follow Larry, Larry Jara Sims, Jaar Ah Sims, on instagram. I mean you'll see his photos and US shouting them out and talking on instagram all the time, so you'll be able to find him. But follow living beyond the brush on Instagram as well, because education is key and you don't grow if you don't learn. And people look from a distance and say I want to be that, I want to be there, but you have to invest in yourself and I think that the fact that you're taking the time out of your extremely busy schedule so pour into people that have that desire to get where you are, it's just it speaks volumes and I want people to know the importance of that in supporting this. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. So living beyond the brush became an idea of mine. It's actually been on my spirit for a while because a lot of people have instagram DM to me or have sent me messages and facebook or found my email address and the emailed me personally and then wanted a Christ as to what they should do, what moves they should make, how they should get to what stuff they should take in terms of getting to where I am or some of my peers are. That they're doing some really amazing things in their careers and I said, okay, well, it's time for me to go to the people. I have to take the time to because, you know, it's a part of my heart. Is Super...

Philanthrophic and, you know, I really want to be able to just give back to people out there doing in light only cargo or Bravo. People were like, how did you get a TV show? You know, how do I pitch TV shows? How do I create opportunities for myself outside and just being in the sale? And so I partnered up with Monica pain, a good friend of mine. I ran my ideas by her. She helped me put it's a other and we came up with really a solid platform for people to be able to tap into so that they can be perfect to the information I with. Something like this was available for myself when I was sort of, you know, building my way and find in my way and sort of like figuring my fingering out which steps I should take in terms of my journey. And it's a jam pack five hours that were offering to people and we made this super affordable. It's not a get rich sort of scheme or or plan, and I know that there are a lot of seminars out there and I could have done easily how to lay a late front down or how to, you know, do so many things. They're out there which are great classes and seminars. By the way, some of my great friends like Kelly and Derrek, who's a master and laying lace down, has amazing classes, and Mario, who does Kim Kardashians make up. He has great classes and tutorials about how to create that perfect makeup look. But I really wanted to provide something beyond that, which is the information and information its power. It's really the gateway to so many opportunities that you can creatively think for yourself and think of yourself. I'm basically just talking about my journey and how I got to where I am and I'm giving informative tips in terms of, you know, what other people can do and take to also get some salves out of situations that they're not completely happy with. I'm so proud of the fact that the cut life is a part of it. Yeah, right. I'm proud...

...of the fact that we get to have you come and drop some knowledge and some gyms or people and, in terms of talking to them about how to use their social social media to their advantage and how to position themselves to win and and to look professional and dope in terms of showcasing their work on social media. There are power, there's power and all of those things that you're going to be given. Those people as well, we got the both men who saying and empire and accident empire, and an amazing artist. You know I'm going to be doing, you know, just cuts on her just as if as examples of, you know, what I've been able to create on rare carpet moments. We're sponsored by smooth and shine. We have goodie gift bags, we have all kinds of stuff that we're offering. So, you know, before I like start yapping off at them out too long about it, everybody can go to, like you said, www dot living beyond the brushcom. Follow me on Instagram at Larry jurassams lay our wise. Well, I was mispronouncing it. Okay, Gerraw, okay, let me get there right, Larry Draw. See there's round. Know my Mama would be like it's drive and you know what, I feel like I'm going to meet your mom one day and I don't want to mess it up. So I'm glad you're correcting me now so I can like I'm a real friend. Mama, okay, Larry Gerride, okay, I got you. Hope, family, they all even call me Larry's grid. That's what it is. So I love yeah, so it is, you know, and I really hope that people find the value in it and and I really hope the people take advantage of the opportunity to have the access that we're offering and it gets the information that we're giving them. So you know, and to also note that it's not limited to hair stylus only. It may be catered to, but this in information is beneficial to any creative entrepreneurer, person working in business that you...

...have a side business you're trying to get going, you can get use this information to help you. So don't think that is only for the hair people. It's not. It's open to anyone who wants to level up. So please doing exactly exactly. I talk about how I, you know, went from being a dancer to doing what I do now, and that transition happened for my twinnies and to my early thirty. So you know, you're never too old, it's never too late. And it was a scary thing for me to do. It's always scary whenever you live on say, well, I don't want to say it's scary when you live on face, because that faith that you have in your spirit kind of smashes that lie called fear. Right. So now you think, but you have to get over the fear to get it to the faith, as in the faith takes you to your destiny, which is what you're going to experience in terms of coming to the summinar. Come on message. I love it. I think that is a great place to stop, because we can't give them all of the jewels. They need to sign up so they can get everything, and you know from Larry Spirit and my spirit, I know where the giving kind so if you sign up for this, you're going to get way more than what's listed. You know, with the tickets, you're going to get so much more and walk away really inspire and just thank you so much, Larry J ra, for joining us. I'm gonna like, I'm gonna just get all into that because I'm loving it right now. I fluck that could be a product line or something. I don't know. I just I just like that we're gonna play with that. We don't figure that one out. Yeah, I mean I saw them under in your comments like is that Weig for sale and you are doing the hair on Sana, and I'm like, I like, Hey, maybe maybe one day it will be possibly, maybe, maybe one day it will be out. So many things that I'm working on. It got the hatline that we were working on, we got Hairton Tolna, Gabriella and...

I are working on. We got more TV projects in the making. We are fucking the make and, you know, some potential, and I want to speak too much on it, but definitely a salon venture is happening as well. So you know, there's a lot more to come from the Larry Gerasim's project, for sure. I love it now. I'm so excited and I'm just glad that the cut life can be a small part of it and I know this relations will be long term, forever and ever. I'm like, Cardi be forever, Larry, I'm we're in it now. Yes, we are all the way in, but thank you so much for joining us. Be Safe in that rainy la weather. It sounds like Oxymur. Thank you, thank you. Okay, we'll talk soon. All right about actually, I feel lad, but I love thank you for joining the cut life podcast. Make sure you visit us on our website, live the cut lifecom. You can listen to episodes. They're on our soundcloud and our itunes. Just searched the cut life podcast. We are talking to all of your favorite celebrity hair stylus and they are dropping the knowledge, the gem's, the jewels, all of that good stuff. We have some events coming up in it's crazy. You might just have to check my instagram. It's here joy, because March, the end of March and April I am all over the place, working with smooth and shine, working with a ton of other brands. So just stay in the loop to hear a joycom and I mean yeah, tear joycom in at to here. A joy on instagram. Follow my boy, my producer, my friend, my buddy since college, Big Med. Big Med on instagram and we will talk to you next time. Love you.

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